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Old 01-22-2009, 12:05 AM   #1
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centered vs offset rear

there are many options out there for offset rears (mostly LC fj type). mini truck are centered, many dana's also come in different options.

i am wondering if one has a streetable advantage over another. i hear stories of people running centered toys with no problem with stock zuk TC.

would like personal testimonials as to what you have, your vib situation (d-shaft type (double card. vs standard)) and if you had to do it over again what you would do.

toyota mini truck axles are just so well supported in aftermarket, relatively good ground clearance, and more plentiful for used parts.

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Old 01-22-2009, 05:46 PM   #2
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I put in a ford 9" and had it off centered to the correct side and run a Tom Woods cv style drive shaft.No problems at high speed.
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Old 01-22-2009, 08:17 PM   #3
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I'm running a Tracker centered diff . I don't like it. It makes my t-case bearings growl. When I put the offset diff back under it the noises went away. I think it side loads the output shaft because of the big angle. I want to run YJ leafs and then the angle would be really bad. I'm going to buy the hybrid housing, they are only $250 . I want to keep my Suzuki all Suzuki....
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:35 AM   #4
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I had a centered scout 44 in the rear of my old zuk and run a cv toy d-line,worked great with no vibe's or any problem's
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:52 AM   #5
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I run a centered kick rear and have had good sucess. I had YJs soa at first and had a little vibration, But since I have since I changed to coils it nice and smooth. It has less vibes than my tin top with a sammie rear.
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:46 AM   #6
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I have a 44 under mine with a toy cv driveshaft no problems.
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Sidekicks aren't center offset. They are about 1 1/2" Drivers side offset. Mini trucks are centered, so it will give less vibration than a Sidekick.
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Old 03-10-2009, 03:28 PM   #8
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I run just a regular Toyota centered rear on my Samurai. I've put lots of road miles on it also. I don't have any vibes or noises, but it will eat up the pinion seal over time. I'm sure it prematurely wears the bearing and seal in the rear of the t-case also. If it's going to be a dedicated DD/trail rig, it would probably be better to get the offset housing from Sky or make your own. If it's just a weekend machine, just run the centered housing.
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I had a centered scout 44 in the rear of my old zuk and run a cv toy d-line,worked great with no vibe's or any problem's
Do you know what year yota i can get a cv type driveshaft? Also a front or rear of toyota? Can you show me a pic?
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My opinion:

I was in exactly the same position as the original poster with going with a stronger set of axles and worrying about driveline lining up correctly and vibes etc....

Toyotas are very common where I'm from so I went with the Mini truck axles...

My options were:
-Dish out big $$$ on a Rock Assault housing with axles which had mix reviews on quality etc but I get the offset to suit the samurai

-Try locating a used Sky rear housing which is offset to suit the samurai as well

-Get a Trail Tough housing which isn't fully offset to match the samurai but it would help with DS angles

-Tom woods multiple double carden DS which was designed for the compound angle when the rear end and the t-case output aren't on the same plain as with the situation with a samurai using centered rear end... The issue with this is you can't run a steep driveshaft angle because the double cardan joints can only operate at limited angle and the wheelbase of my samurai is way to short and lifted way too much for this option to work... This option is also big $$$ for a DS

-Last option and the route I went is to do the toyota gearbox & t-case swap using a RingR kit, where everything would line up as its supposed to and you can use regular driveshafts.... Also simplifies things as its less parts than the samurai setup and the strength goes up tremendously....

Hope this helps
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Do you know what year yota i can get a cv type driveshaft? Also a front or rear of toyota? Can you show me a pic?
I think most if not all mini trucks came with the cv type front shaft... All I've ever encountered here are atleast
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Our solution to this problem comes in our Rock Breaker rear axle

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